tuko Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Roaming around the interweb this morning I can along this image of the possible next Defender, anyone else seen this? I have to admit it's a far cry better than that 100 thingy a few years ago. Todd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Like everything else I'm sure its probably just another magazine's render of what they want it to look like. Land Rover have kept the design well under wraps and I can't see them releasing anything until it has been finalised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 I agree with the above comment, but it's nice to dream. ;-) I pulled the images and here's a larger & better view of the SWB: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuko Posted June 7, 2016 Author Share Posted June 7, 2016 And here is the LWB which looks like a re skinned Defender on the old frame: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I'm sure that, if they're aiming for the utility and leisure market, they'll screw it up as usual and hand more sales to Toyota/Hyundai/Great Wall, etc. Waiting for Land Rover to get their act together is like supporting a team that could make it all the way if only they didn't always get drunk before the big game and make a mess of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 IF, and that is a big IF, the new one would look anything like that it could be a good one. This is the 1st "concept" that sort of appeals to me. Proper engine, heater and tow capacity and I think I could be looking for it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangover Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Some one has done some photoshopping with a Pajero it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Looks like a bad photoshop based on the Toyota, 99.99% of these magazine stories are utter fantasy. I'll bet the new one will NOT have the old chassis & beam axles for starters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Live axles, separate chassis... nah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Photoshop BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Quite likely... New one will be about money, saving it and making it. The engine will be in house or Jag based. Independent suspension. Monocoque with a sub chassis (at most). If there even is a replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 .....of more interest is the G-wagen on portals , rather nice cheers Steveb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_grieve Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 ^^^^^Exactly what I was thinking. Is there anybody currently working at Land Rover that would even understand the concept let alone push for something other than electronic aids in a production vehicle to enhance off road performance? The only way to get portals and lockers in a Land Rover is to build one yourself. Why would you though if you can buy something else that does the job better? I don't envy JLR replacing the defender but if we were honest, it wasn't really that good, just easy for folks like ourselves to make better and closer to our individual requirements. I fear it is this that will be lost with the replacement and why old defenders will carry on for decades to come.Did the article go on to mention the Defender replacement's engine, the displacement of which will be so small they'll have to invent a new system of units to measure it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 No way that came out of LR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim2809 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 When at the factory early part of the year they clearly stated the design was not even started yet so i dont see it being designed in less than 5 months. Looks like the dc100 that has been photoshopped. They also said design wont even be done for at least early next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I don't think they will replace the defender for the same reason they didn't/don't do the Dakar. If it fails it will hurt the company bad better to leave it as an icon and move on. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyw Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I agree with Fridge and others. Any replacement won't have beam axles. Modern car manufacturing methods will see it share a platform with something else in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shackleton Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I can't see them replacing the Defender either. What's the rationale? The D3 & 4 are the Defender now, used by as many tradesmen if not more and the ladies who lunch over horses. Brass tacks is that yes a replacement might be as good if not better off road but in today's world who gives a ****, not enough people to make it a money spinner, and it damn sure won't be as rugged unless they go full plastic panels a la Citroen Cactus. Maybe I'm not paying enough attention but it seems the target dates get pushed further and furthe put like as if they're hoping we'll all forget about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 I can't see them replacing the Defender either. What's the rationale? The D3 & 4 are the Defender now, used by as many tradesmen if not more and the ladies who lunch over horses. And they are being replaced with something the same basic shape as the rest of the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Ah, but Toyota have owned the utility market for many years now, proving the market exists. The difference is that for Toyota, the LandCruiser, Prado and Hilux are just a small part of what this huge company does. For wee little Land Rover, the Defender seemed to take up quite a percentage of factory space and money. If they really were serious about actually, really taking on the utility market - which I won't believe will ever happen - then whatever they came up with would have to be very good. Not with a dinky engine and wonky gearbox. So while they could take a good shot at the utility market, I agree with the above: they'll just make some sort of a nauseating "lifestyle" car based on an existing platform. It's just such a shame. They could have done much better. Starting in about, er, 1974. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Someone I may know might have friends at the factory, and probably got drunk with them at the weekend, and there was a good chance they let out that there is a new Defender, planned for production in an east european plant. But if all that happened, they probably wouldnt have had a pic of the styling on them, and then would have reverted to talking about boobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 A friends Dad works at Gaydon and has said to me that he thinks I'll like the new defender.... but he wouldn't spill any beans other than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I've heard a few rumours from people who are tangentially connected with LR that there will be one, but how much of the detail/speculation I've heard is anywhere near the mark I am very doubtful of. What amuses me is the number of people who have no clue whatsoever but are absolutely convinced it will be rubbish then again, if it hasn't got a 200TDi and doesn't leak like a sieve they'll claim it's not a proper Land Rover and they've sold out / ruined everything / we're all going to hell in a handcart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I agree that people are going to say it's garbage, which is a bit early because no one has seen or driven one. a bit like saying top gear will be carp before you saw it. You conservative bunch... Daan (series 3s rule!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I've heard a few rumours from people who are tangentially connected with LR that there will be one, but how much of the detail/speculation I've heard is anywhere near the mark I am very doubtful of. What amuses me is the number of people who have no clue whatsoever but are absolutely convinced it will be rubbish then again, if it hasn't got a 200TDi and doesn't leak like a sieve they'll claim it's not a proper Land Rover and they've sold out / ruined everything / we're all going to hell in a handcart I'm only going by their track record . . . so I find it impossible to believe they'll suddenly come up with something that would convince Australians not to buy a LandCruiser instead. It's fun speculating though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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