reb78 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Red90 said: You guys really should not be too cocky about doing a good job with nearly twice the per capita deaths as the US and second only to Belgium in the world. Probably below Spain though as they are making up the data now. No one was being cocky - all I read here was a greater level of caution from those posting. I think Fridge has summed it up really.... 1m distancing hasnt suddenly become safe overnight and that wasnt the message given, but it is the message that most people will have heard... People will gradually slip back to 'normal' as thats how they will interpet what the government have said today... that is, until an inevitable second wave hits. Look at Germany... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I saw the report on the news last night of the Reading park deaths and couldn’t believe the lack of social distancing outside the school where one of the victims worked. The Head was reading a statement and pupils and teachers were standing very close together. I think police officers were too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Peaklander said: I saw the report on the news last night of the Reading park deaths and couldn’t believe the lack of social distancing outside the school where one of the victims worked. The Head was reading a statement and pupils and teachers were standing very close together. I think police officers were too. Same with the tribute to the three chaps who were stabbed outside the pub they drank in - couple of masks, no distancing at all. Its adly the same with the riots that have been all over the news for the last two weeks. It will be telling if we see a higher infection rate as a result. People are moving on but the virus is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, Peaklander said: I saw the report on the news last night of the Reading park deaths and couldn’t believe the lack of social distancing outside the school where one of the victims worked. The Head was reading a statement and pupils and teachers were standing very close together. I think police officers were too. Indeed , and no comment from the reportage using Mike onna pole at 2m + .... Ho F Hum Steve b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThreePointFive Posted June 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Red90 said: You guys really should not be too cocky about doing a good job with nearly twice the per capita deaths as the US and second only to Belgium in the world. Probably below Spain though as they are making up the data now. Why are you so keen to ensure we all know how shiit we've been? You don't have a stake in this, so why do you need to ensure we're in no doubt we've failed? Besides, trying to compare the inaccuracy of statistics using other statistics is nonsensical. Almost as much as trying to compare countries with vastly different population demographics. Every death from this thing is a failure, we don't need you to state it. You used to be a voice of reason on here, something's gone seriously wrong over the last 6 months. Edited June 23, 2020 by ThreePointFive 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Bowie69 said: It's all detailed on the gov.uk website. Cool. I went and downloaded it. Based on that data, there is a statistically significant number of excess deaths for all of April that can not be accounted for where the "Deaths where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate". This results in around 2 to 3000 per week. This is nearly identical to the trend seen in the CDC graph above. In any case, the general reporting trend is similar between the two jurisdictions so a comparison of per capita deaths is reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Clearly you aren't listening to the mood, the information, or rational points of view expressed in this thread. Please, don't let the door smack you on the arse as you leave it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post miketomcat Posted June 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2020 Every death is a failure, every life is a win. Every company that goes bust is a failure and every company that survives is a win. There is no right and wrong way to do it because no one know the answer. I just hope as many as possible survive both mentally, physically and economically. We're all in this together so stop comparing sizes and push forwards! Mike 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 10 hours ago, ThreePointFive said: Why are you so keen to ensure we all know how shiit we've been? You don't have a stake in this, so why do you need to ensure we're in no doubt we've failed? Besides, trying to compare the inaccuracy of statistics using other statistics is nonsensical. Almost as much as trying to compare countries with vastly different population demographics. Every death from this thing is a failure, we don't need you to state it. You used to be a voice of reason on here, something's gone seriously wrong over the last 6 months. We all have bad days, and years. Stress/ life/ Britpart gets to us in different ways. I know I can be quite strong on opinions at times, other times I couldn't care. Red is worth listening to, and, as we all know, tonne of voice doesn't translate on keyboards. So, let's shrug, disagree, and move on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Bowie69 said: Clearly you aren't listening to the mood, the information, or rational points of view expressed in this thread. Please, don't let the door smack you on the arse as you leave it. Hmm I made a joke about his manner on it - he took it as an attack - I apologised on here - and the mods must have deleted it all. So I pinged a message over to make sure he saw that I apologised - it’s been read but no reply. Perhaps there is no interest in engaging with people 🤷🏻♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 5 hours ago, miketomcat said: Every death is a failure, every life is a win. Every company that goes bust is a failure and every company that survives is a win. There is no right and wrong way to do it because no one know the answer. I just hope as many as possible survive both mentally, physically and economically. We're all in this together so stop comparing sizes and push forwards! Mike Nicely put. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Member Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 14 hours ago, Bowie69 said: Clearly you aren't listening to the mood, the information, or rational points of view expressed in this thread. Please, don't let the door smack you on the arse as you leave it. I was simply providing data to clarify the statement that you had made earlier. You may believe the UK is reporting better than the US, but that is not supported by data. The number of non-Covid excess deaths is proportionally a little higher in the UK scaled for population and number of Covid deaths. That said, the UK is doing better currently, so a few months from now this may all change. 22 hours ago, Bowie69 said: Nope, we report far more dogmatically that most nations, and we have the testing in place to ensure that happens. The US system on the other hand.... As to you and others complaining about the subjects I'm discussing. You do not need to get involved. Getting angry and throwing insults is in no way productive. Beyond my first post which was a bit derogatory towards your country, the rest has been straightforward data presentation and analysis to clarify facts. I'm not sure of the point of getting angry at facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 I have not thrown any insults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Bowie69 said: I have not thrown any insults. Shut up, bum face! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, FridgeFreezer said: Shut up, bum face! You are being very rude. . . . . to bums! ( In jest, not serious, please don't be offended ) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, FridgeFreezer said: Shut up, bum face! You can talk, erm, erm, erm... Beanpole? Sorry, no good at this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bowie69 said: You can talk, dogs breath!. Helped you out there Bowie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 11 hours ago, miketomcat said: Every death is a failure, every life is a win. Every company that goes bust is a failure and every company that survives is a win. There is no right and wrong way to do it because no one know the answer. I just hope as many as possible survive both mentally, physically and economically. We're all in this together so stop comparing sizes and push forwards! Mike I agree with the first and the last part but there absolutely are right ways and wrong ways to do this. People get paid good money to get this right and I don’t expect to be 6 months into a pandemic and have the advice be “yes maybe masks are a thing, and let’s maybe do testing” You look at how long and many deaths there were before most countries started getting it together, we are so screwed for climate change.... anyway you are all a bunch of spanner wielders now go away or I shall taunt you all for a second time 🙂 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Oo ! taunt me taunt me ! 🤣 Mo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Mo Murphy said: Oo ! taunt me taunt me ! 🤣 Mo No! You're NOT worth it! ( Was that okay?) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 (That was great 👍🏻) quite cathartic this ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 What's all this, jovial and sometimes friendly banter on LR4x4? Surely this isn't right and must be suppressed at all costs! 🤣😷🤡 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Errr, Down with this sort of thing! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 51 minutes ago, Happyoldgit said: What's all this, jovial and sometimes friendly banter on LR4x4? Surely this isn't right and must be suppressed at all costs! 🤣😷🤡 How I miss those days 😉🤣😍 Mo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, Mo Murphy said: How I miss those days 😉🤣😍 Mo Haha. That Miserable old git chap hasnt been on here for some time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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