Gazzar Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Because it stops the sound from reaching the windscreen. Single glazed glass is invisible to sound, so best stop it getting beyond the bonnet. Most diesels have under bonnet shielding from the factory, and that wouldn't happen if it wasn't the cheapest way of achieving a result. And Dyna mat is good for stopping sound, because it has mass, which stops sound, according to an aeronautical acoustic engineer I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Dyna matt stops vibrations by adding mass to a structure. It isn't a sound barrier. Placing it under the bonnet will do virtually nothing to reduce engine noise other than provide a very minimal sound barrier because there is more of an object. It will reduce vibration in the bonnet itself which in turn can help reduce the noise created by the bonnet vibrating, but that is different to placing a sound barrier on the underside of the bonnet to reduce engine noise. The proof of the pudding is in the way in which it has been applied. Plastering dynamat or any butyl mat onto the interior of a car ( or bonnet ) in such a way that it creates a full covering is a money making scheme using false promises to those gulible to have it. Carefully placed strips of a butyl matt will create mass to a flimsy aluminum body panel and give the same affect as completely covering it. However, these companies won't sell so much and thus less profit... Correct engine noise reduction systems in cars don't use Butyl alone, they will use a mixture of different products. My experience isn't in aeronautical ( had to check the spelling there! ) acoustic engineering, but it is in sound design for the hospitality sector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Yes. You need something over the mass as well. I use camping mats. Two layers, different foams. I've a TDI series, and can carry out a conversation with my slightly deaf wife at 50 mph (no overdrive), without shouting. So it does work to an extent. I used flash band. A roofing sealant product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Ex-MOD deep-wading 90 - looks a lot like it was left underwater for some time before being put on eBay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I bought one of those a couple of years ago. The plus point was the mod fitted a new chassis and doors before releasing it, (the old one no doubt being so rotten they couldn't wheel the thing out of the depot with its belly dragging on the floor.) On the other hand it had the most rotten decrepit lacework bulkhead I've ever seen. When I laid it in the floor it resembled a table tennis net. They also have awful marine sealed wiring looms which are a swine to repair or fault find, and instant death bringing sealed steel dashboards should your head ever come into contact - with the radio racking, rifle mounts and that dash I wouldn't fancy anyones chance in an accident, never mind a war! The escape hatch (its just a normal sunroof but with ally plate rather than glass) seems fun till it rains. Quite fancy it though 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Gazzar said: Yes. You need something over the mass as well. I use camping mats. Two layers, different foams. I've a TDI series, and can carry out a conversation with my slightly deaf wife at 50 mph (no overdrive), without shouting. So it does work to an extent. I used flash band. A roofing sealant product. My only issue is i’m the deaf one and the wife keeps shouting at me.... even when we’re not in the landy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Ah. Can't help with that, sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254213746064 this looks great in the pictures... until you get inside and it’s got random bits of poo brown leather that looks like it’s been sewn by a child 🤮 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkie Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 That's a real shame, not really my thing but it's an otherwise great Defender. It almost looks like they ran out of money right at the end and thought "what have got in the loft that we can use - oh look Dad's old leather jacket from the 1980s"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 4 hours ago, landroversforever said: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254213746064 this looks great in the pictures... until you get inside and it’s got random bits of poo brown leather that looks like it’s been sewn by a child 🤮 oh dear.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy50 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Yachting edition 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 This is neatly done: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-RHD-Jeep-willys-MB-CJ-Suzuki-recreation/173874175398?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Dc904b8b251554c01a3ca420cf2b62d5f%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D254216242339%26itm%3D173874175398&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042 Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Very tidy, though I think the body sits a little too high compared to the original Jeep's, but very close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSheds Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I am almost tempted by that... 44 minutes ago, Daan said: This is neatly done: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-RHD-Jeep-willys-MB-CJ-Suzuki-recreation/173874175398?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Dc904b8b251554c01a3ca420cf2b62d5f%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D254216242339%26itm%3D173874175398&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042 Daan I am tempted by that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 The steering box is a bit in your face as well. This is the only one I have seen so far that did not move the grill forwards to accommodate the engine. But as a whole, really neat job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I really like the SJ-Jeep, that'd fool most people and be a brilliant thing to bimble around in the summer! Surely belongs on the other eBlag thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 It would, but that has the -and it's cheap- tag attached to it, which this is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eightpot Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 This doesn't look right from any angle - also not quite seeing the point of adding a load space while at the same time removing access to the boot 🤔 https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F283449056224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger110 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 That is awful...reminds me of those pictures where they double the eyes, my brain can’t compute it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkie Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 It somehow doesn't look real to me. It looks more like a badly edited picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 20 hours ago, ThreeSheds said: 21 hours ago, Daan said: This is neatly done: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-RHD-Jeep-willys-MB-CJ-Suzuki-recreation/173874175398?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Dc904b8b251554c01a3ca420cf2b62d5f%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D254216242339%26itm%3D173874175398&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042 Daan I am tempted by that... I love the concept as a lightweight run-around, I think at 70mph I'd want the seatbelts sorting though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Saw this in the flesh at the weekend, really not sure it's worth £33,000 https://www.totalheadturners.com/cars/1994-thunderbirds-2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I prefer this one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveturnbull Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Err, what now....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lo-fi Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, daveturnbull said: Err, what now....? Hilarious. All it needs is a V8! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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