FridgeFreezer Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, elbekko said: Agreed, wouldn't want something going very bang underneath, and also losing air pressure at the same time. Going bang underneath is preferable to inside the cab but it would still be a change of underwear I think! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Have seen a few builds online where they have used the bumpers as air tanks, not seen any failures, doesn't mean there haven't been though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 The other thing I always come back to with air tanks and using 'other' things, you never know when you might be working near to it. Anything with a compressed gas venting quickly is an easy route to hearing damage or a lost eye. For the oil cooler, I think it would be worth having an oil temp gauge on it. Temp stickers on the outside of the engine aren't going to show what the oil temp is at the points which matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 I still have the original oil cooler in place. My coolant sits between 90-95 exiting the engine and I think the oil sits around 85 degrees. I cant remember if that's before or after its been cooled.... Fairly sure I am running 10-30w. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: On the oil filter thingy, what's the block like where it bolts on - can you tap out the holes and thread hydraulic fittings in? That would give you an easy route to a remote filter wherever you wanted it. If I remember correctly when I took mine off its just some threaded holes for the bolts and the ports bend fairly quickly so I don't think tapping them would be that straightforward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simonr Posted September 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2023 4 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Having just done a budget OBA install Fire Extinguishers are a good option. A CO2 Extinguisher has a rated working pressure of over 50 Bar so, even when a bit tatty will hold 10 Bar without too much problem. They mostly have BSP threads too. Plastic coke bottles tend to explode between 30 & 50 Bar - so, again at 10 Bar, there's a reasonable factor of safety. Even if they do explode, it's just a loud pop - no exciting schrapnel! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Fire extinguishers were on my list. Also have an old 240 volt compressor, might see if I can squeeze the tank in front of the rear cross member...🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Bursting discs stop debris and damage. They go off with a bang though. I made a programming mistake causing one to ‘pop’ on the evening of the 1987 hurricane. I had to work all night, on my own, to sort things out. Meanwhile it was carnage outside, something I discovered later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I wouldn’t want to be hit by a burst-disc. We have them at work for the oxygen and engine fire extinguisher systems and they’re facing downward and outward in a manner that could fire the disc at you when doing the checks. A pressure issue that’d fire one is only likely if there was an extraordinary amount of heat applied to the system, in which case you wouldn’t be hanging around anyway, but the possibility of a weak disc failing and hitting someone is not a pleasant one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 37 minutes ago, Snagger said: I wouldn’t want to be hit by a burst-disc. We have them at work for the oxygen and engine fire extinguisher systems and they’re facing downward and outward in a manner that could fire the disc at you when doing the checks. A pressure issue that’d fire one is only likely if there was an extraordinary amount of heat applied to the system, in which case you wouldn’t be hanging around anyway, but the possibility of a weak disc failing and hitting someone is not a pleasant one. Unless the terminology is something different, none of our burst discs are designed to come out away from anything, they're just designed to rupture and split open. Obviously a rush of gas or similar isn't great, but there shouldn't be any flying debris. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Yes they are designed to split in the middle and ours were mounted on upward facing pipes, well out of the way. The one I caused to burst would have been on an LN2 system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Peaklander said: Yes they are designed to split in the middle and ours were mounted on upward facing pipes, well out of the way. The one I caused to burst would have been on an LN2 system. Nice, quite a bit of energy potential there if something goes wrong. Mine are only small ones by comparison on a Deuterium system and fit inside a 1" fitting so the escape lines can be piped away. Custom ones too which are only rated for 0.5Bar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 only burst discs i use are on the paintball regs and when one goes next to you it makes you jump nothing comes out of them as they're held in place by a nut which has a vent in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Peaklander said: Bursting discs stop debris and damage. I fitted a standard compressor over-pressure relief valve to my air manifold, it was about £15 since I didn't fancy the random ones from ebay for £5 as a safety-critical device That's in addition to the actual compressor cutoff valve and the fact a 6mm push-fit pipe will likely pop before the air tank begins to notice anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 4 hours ago, landroversforever said: Unless the terminology is something different, none of our burst discs are designed to come out away from anything, they're just designed to rupture and split open. Obviously a rush of gas or similar isn't great, but there shouldn't be any flying debris. I hope these are similarly restrained, but none of our manual go into much detail about their construction. All I can see is a slightly recessed plastic disc (green for O2, amber and red for APU halon extinguisher on an older type I worked on, not visible on my current type). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Snagger said: I hope these are similarly restrained, but none of our manual go into much detail about their construction. All I can see is a slightly recessed plastic disc (green for O2, amber and red for APU halon extinguisher on an older type I worked on, not visible on my current type). Sounds like a strange concept in plastic to me given how properties change so much with temp. Sorry for the derailment @Stellaghost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 Back on track ....lol This came through the post today from the States, hopefully it will help...... .....im sure it will once i get my head around it..... regards Stephen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 I appreciate this is not Landrover, but does anyone know where i can buy Toyota connectors, this is one off the engine loom that would have connected to the main harness these are for the ecu however I don't have the 4th connector which I'm led to believe is the one you do most of the alterations on TIA regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Have you got a scrappers near you? Would think a rummage in one of them would get you something, and maybe even a MAF at the same time. Failing that and we all get together and cobble a MS install together through donations 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 27 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: but does anyone know where i can buy Toyota connectors I think they are a TE/Amphenol part - it might be worth a cheeky message to Phoenix Engine Management to see if they know the part numbers. 28 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: this is one off the engine loom that would have connected to the main harness You need so few wires off that if I recall correctly that you're probably easier (once you've figured them out) simply cutting the wires and splicing them where you need to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRS91 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 41 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: I appreciate this is not Landrover, but does anyone know where i can buy Toyota connectors, TIA regards Stephen Try Mark at PoleVolt https://polevolt.co.uk/index.html Say Steg sent you he might be able to find them for you, he's pretty good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Maybe get some of these? 6 pin seems to be the biggest easily available. Need a special crimp tool, but once you get the technique the make very good connectors! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRS91 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 minute ago, TD5toV8110 said: Maybe get some of these? 6 pin seems to be the biggest easily available. Need a special crimp tool, but once you get the technique the make very good connectors! Apparently multipack boxes of deutsch plugs are cheap on TEMU, my cousin keeps buying random multipack boxes to keep his service van topped up. Might be an option if you want to reterminate it all with waterproof stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous doug Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, TD5toV8110 said: Maybe get some of these? 6 pin seems to be the biggest easily available. Need a special crimp tool, but once you get the technique the make very good connectors! Can use these, the special tool can be avoided by using a normal crimping tool working through the different sizes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5toV8110 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 The proper crimper does a nice neat job in one hit. It's stepped so squishes one half to the wire, then the "wings" to the insulation. Here's my crusty one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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