Ex Member Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Yep. Never ever had an issue opening and closing doors while sitting on two wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I must say it’s not the first time I’ve heard of defender doors not opening or closing when the suspension is fully twisted up. It was also something I remember from a ride round the LRE ramp setup in an L322 that they commented the defender can’t open its doors on the axle twister parts. I also know they had issues in the past with cherry picker conversions as where the chassis flexes and was then presented with a very solid mounting of the cherry picker, it would eventually crack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naks Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 11/12/2019 at 8:21 PM, deep said: If you try hard enough, you can "prove" your point! You would expect an essentially two-dimensional ladder chassis to twist more easily than a three-dimensional box chassis (really what a monocoque is) but Naks is exaggerating this considerably. Clearly he/she has had some experience of a dodgy vehicle and can't see beyond it. Sure, but the first time I experienced this was in 2008 on a 110 double-cab, changing tyres - I tried to get into the car to get my wallet was was unable to open the doors, much to the amusement of the techs, and my own surprise. And a few times subsequently, when off-roading. Mind you, when I'm saying cross-axle, this is the kind of thing I'm referring to, not driving around flat muddy fields with maybe one wheel a few cm higher/lower than the others - we have proper off-road tracks here So yes, I can see beyond 'it'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naks Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Look like they had a lot of fun filming! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Naks said: Sure, but the first time I experienced this was in 2008 on a 110 double-cab, changing tyres - I tried to get into the car to get my wallet was was unable to open the doors, much to the amusement of the techs, and my own surprise. And a few times subsequently, when off-roading. Mind you, when I'm saying cross-axle, this is the kind of thing I'm referring to, not driving around flat muddy fields with maybe one wheel a few cm higher/lower than the others - we have proper off-road tracks here So yes, I can see beyond 'it'. What a great example, you can see how little twist there is in that photo by how straight the door shut lines are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynic-al Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Naks said: Look like they had a lot of fun filming! Here's an 80k car and a field, try break it. What a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naks Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Spotted at a petrol station in Swakopmund, Namibia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 With a UK plate too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Poore Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 They've not started selling them yet and somehow someone's managed to steal one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 That 110 looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanuki Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Does look good: I look forward to a few future videos - and posted lap-times - of it on trials towing a 3.5-ton triple-axle flatbed round Nürburgring. [For my daily-driver - I don't want crazy offroad axle-articulation - to me the important thing is can I tow a laden trailer at legal-speed-plus-20% for 500 miles in comfort and without losing my hearing] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, Tanuki said: [For my daily-driver - I don't want crazy offroad axle-articulation - to me the important thing is can I tow a laden trailer at legal-speed-plus-20% for 500 miles in comfort and without losing my hearing] Sounds like you need a luxury SUV Tanuki! Land Rover make lots of those ! In fact they don’t make anything else ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Hearing is overrated. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 What was that Mo? Didn’t catch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I found it absolutely hilarious to see that bloke standing on the back tyre to access the roof rack - while leaning on the ladder provided for that purpose!! That aside, these are the first genuinely "in-use" pictures I've seen. Disconcertingly, it looks dated already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) His right foot is on the ladder, he just wasn't bothered about extending it! Edited November 15, 2019 by Peaklander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Tyres look ok on it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 It's a Freelander isn't it ? Don't we have a forum already for those ? Mo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Tanuki said: [For my daily-driver - I don't want crazy offroad axle-articulation - to me the important thing is can I tow a laden trailer at legal-speed-plus-20% for 500 miles in comfort and without losing my hearing] Most estate or saloon cars should suffice then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 https://www.outsideonline.com/2401929/new-land-rover-defender#close quite a good review Telling quote at the beginning: The new Defender will, “transition from a specialist 4x4 to a luxury SUV,” says Nick Rodgers, the project’s chief engineer. “We can’t be held back by our heritage.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzar Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Which parts? The profitable part? The engineering innovation part? The function over form part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 12 hours ago, deep said: I found it absolutely hilarious to see that bloke standing on the back tyre to access the roof rack - while leaning on the ladder provided for that purpose!! That aside, these are the first genuinely "in-use" pictures I've seen. Disconcertingly, it looks dated already. Evidently either too badly positioned or too awkward to use. Either way, it suggests it’s a useless accessory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 These two where up my way the week before last, dunno what they were up too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I like the colour! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Resembles Stornaway blue, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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