Bowie69 Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 Yes, for sure, when they are second hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I'll reserve judgement until I see it but if it's as promised I'd be hopeful, price dependent of course. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 If it's nice and mechanical and rugged enough to be a proper workhorse then I might have one. Also depends what it looks like of course! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 It's looking very appealing so far. For my current needs (okay, desires - I'm getting on fine without a 4x4 at all) I couldn't justify buying new, but I could certainly be in the second hand market in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Drumstick Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Really keen to see what the Grenadier is going to look like. I'd love to be in a position to buy one, but sadly suspect that won't be the case. Would certainly like to see about a used on after a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-britishcars/ineos-grenadier-spied-for-the-first-time/42550 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Interesting! Wonder if they’ve used someone else’s body as a mule for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenden Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Nice. 4 doors and what appears to be a cage beside the driver! /Mads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Looks a bit like a cross between a Defender and an Ibex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I must say, the styling is probably as close as you can get to a defender without JLR taking you to court. I think the end result could be quite promising. The wheel arches could probably house a 35" tyre without too much butchering, and thankfully none of this low profile tyre BS that stops us having any decent chance to go offroad properly. The bottom could do with stuff moving upwards: That suspension mount makes a defender elephant ear look small, and is that an exhaust or a fuel tank? Anyway, I just get the grinder out to cut it all of for the long arm suspension conversion when the time comes. I think this car has potential and might be the next big thing in offroad circles. Daan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I see they’ve even replicated the cramped Defender driving position! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Daan said: I must say, the styling is probably as close as you can get to a defender without JLR taking you to court. I think the end result could be quite promising. The wheel arches could probably house a 35" tyre without too much butchering, and thankfully none of this low profile tyre BS that stops us having any decent chance to go offroad properly. The bottom could do with stuff moving upwards: That suspension mount makes a defender elephant ear look small, and is that an exhaust or a fuel tank? Anyway, I just get the grinder out to cut it all of for the long arm suspension conversion when the time comes. I think this car has potential and might be the next big thing in offroad circles. Daan JLR lost the court case to Jim Ratcliffe over the defender shape... so Grenadier should be able to get pretty close if they wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Hard to tell how much of that is bolt on panels to deceive the eye? Looks a little like an ibex there. (sorry - I should read before I post! - snagged said the same thing) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Looks a lot like the old Santana Anibal PS10 vehicle too, hardly any triangular panel below the 2nd row doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 Shape of the front -for pedestrian protection, is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 He really has built a modern day defender. I wonder if he will be able to resist having a poke at JLR with his marketing ? I wouldn’t ! The best real 4x4 by far ? The toughest 4x4 Built by experts for experts All those things JLR trade against but no longer do ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 They’ve released a copy of the picture from the video too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Probably the same photos: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2021-ineos-grenadier-first-prototype-caught-testing-disguise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 hmmmmmm, i'm not sure i like that sloped bonnet or the front bumper although it's difficult to tell with the camo on. The overall feel of it looks good though apart from all the iron mongery hanging down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 With the camo it looks kinda like an Auverland A3 but bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 hours ago, paime said: hmmmmmm, i'm not sure i like that sloped bonnet or the front bumper although it's difficult to tell with the camo on. The overall feel of it looks good though apart from all the iron mongery hanging down! I hope some of that is temporary, though the two suspension hangers look permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 hours ago, paime said: hmmmmmm, i'm not sure i like that sloped bonnet or the front bumper although it's difficult to tell with the camo on. The overall feel of it looks good though apart from all the iron mongery hanging down! You will need some sort of slope, just look at the current jeep wrangler offering... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketomcat Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 20 hours ago, Daan said: Just saying.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjan Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Going to be interesting to see what the final thing really looks like. And....... How much it costs. ...not to mention if the thing will be sold outside your island.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePointFive Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) They wanted to be sited near a port as they aim for high export sales. I'm reserving judgement, partly I just don't like the feeling that hiding how it looks is a marketing game of some sort when most manufacturers start with an approximation through a concept car. There are too many unknowns and I think producing a car in what will have to be limited volume is going to put it straight into the new Defender's price bracket. Edited June 9, 2020 by ThreePointFive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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